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1965 Ford ht-950

$6,500
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1115690659120028
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This would make a good Christmas present for someone. Tried to load an image but it didn't work

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It sounds like it would make a great project for someone. How many of these trucks did they build?

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This C T Electric was purchased from Cutis Publishing by the Huntington WV newspaper. He's been trying to sell it for several years. He inherited it from his father. At that time it had sat in the barn for years. The last time I talked to him he had $$ in his eyes. I told him it wasn't worth near what he was asking. I see he still has it for sale. He wanted $35k for it then.

Double Mountain Manufacturing LLC
EddyLucast@hotmail.com 
203-228-1961

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Here is a CT Electric truck for sale, this one looks really familiar but I don’t know where I have seen it before: https://topclassiccarsforsale.com/other-makes/505591-1912-commercial-truck-c-t-company-model-a-10-standard-awd-electric-truck.html

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1962 Ford Lincoln Y block 302 332 - $450 (Sweet Home) 

https://corvallis.craigslist.org/pts/7559140181.html


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Thought someone might need this for a project.

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Aaron (11/6/2022)
Oddly enough the 22.5's for Ford came out in 55 I have 3 sitting here in the yard.
I wondered about the air set up but i didn't see either a hand valve or trailer brake charge valve in the cab but the under pictures show brake line sat the rear axle, I didn't think the 332 was factory either but wanted to see what you guys thought.
Tom you don't happen to have that 5th over yet do you.
Aaron, Regretfully I do not have the 5th over. It was sold in an auction I had in NY about 10 years ago. And it was like new.
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Aaron (11/6/2022)
Oddly enough the 22.5's for Ford came out in 55 I have 3 sitting here in the yard.
I wondered about the air set up but i didn't see either a hand valve or trailer brake charge valve in the cab but the under pictures show brake line sat the rear axle, I didn't think the 332 was factory either but wanted to see what you guys thought.
Tom you don't happen to have that 5th over yet do you.
Aaron, Regretfully I do not have the 5th over. It was sold in an auction I had in NY about 10 years ago. And it was like new.
Tom

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Aaron (11/6/2022)
It bid to 30,750
Why would you put this air pac on in place of the vacume hydro vac, I built the same truck for Dennis and it'll put you through  the windshield.
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AIr-pac's like Tony posted, were used in post war years to allow hyd braked trucks to pull air braked trailers.
 Air over hyd master cyl were used for a few different reasons. Ford used to for disk front brakes, when air disk calipers were in their infancy, The Brit buses and I believe Mack used it when there wasn't room around the wheel end for S cams or wedge brakes. The hyd wheel cyl could fit entirely within the brake drum. 
 To fit an air-pac to a (formally) Hydovac truck, all you had to do is replace the hydrovac with the air-pac and add a compressor and air tank.  The rest of the hyd brake system remained as designed.
 I have three of the hydrivac's and they work very well. Yeah they can faceplant you if you stand on them. The air pac was a little smaller (using higher pressure then atmospheric) but the basic design is the same, foot pedal controls how much "boost" gets applied at the booster, since the booster uses air pressure, it creates a modulated air signal based on how much braking effort is applied at the pedal, exactly what is needed for an air braked trailer "blue line" the red line gets air system pressure.
 If you have a good understanding of hydrovacs, air-pac are almost identical.
 Air over hyd is an air system, with a typical treadle valve up to the delivery to the wheel end, instead of S cams or wedge, the air pressure operates a std hyd master cyl that is then fed to hdy wheel cyl. More complex, in that it has to have all the air stuff before the master that a full air braked truck would and doesn't have the back-up that a hydrovac or air-pac does. Both of those systems will operate "un boosted" if they loose air or vacuum, a Air over hyd will have no brakes without air pressure.
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It bid to 30,750
Why would you put this air pac on in place of the vacume hydro vac, I built the same truck for Dennis and it'll put you through  the windshield.
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Tony Bullard (11/6/2022)
The brake system is probably a Bendix Air-Pac air over hydraulic unit the same as the lighter military trucks used at that time. It a conventional hydraulic brake system but instead of a vacuum booster it’s an air booster. The air boost pressure was also plumbed to the service gladhand through a ¼ turn valve for a trailer. There is no hand valve or foot treadle.


Tony, That is what I expected to find at first, but no, it had a suspended treadle valve on the firewall and must have a air over master in the frame. Some later Ford used that system for disk front brakes, and some of the British buses I worked on had a similar system of air treadle and hyd wheel end parts.
 The Ford system was called "air intensifier" 
 The truck in question was cobbled together with parts it never was designed to have. You can see in pictures where the firewall was cut and the treadle bolted in place. Have to look at the pics at the bottom of the ad to see.
 I thought of using and airpac on my K-7 but costs are high and not worth it.


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