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Doodlebug part ID help needed

Posted By Jungerfrosch 7 Years Ago
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Here is a shot of the whole thing....I realized I never posted a picture of the complete Doodlebug.

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Radiator I bought from the seller that I am going to use. It is from an International F-12.....for those who don't know the tank on the front is the air cleaner.....I didn't know until I asked :) I'm planning on using this air cleaner in place of the one already on the Doodlebug.

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Here is a shot showing the 8-16 transmission better. The whole thing attached to the small sprocket is the transmission, it extends down into the frame as well, with the input between the frame rails. The splined shaft on the top is where the belt drive pulley was. I don't know that I would ever have a use for a belt drive, but if I find one to put on at a reasonable price I will get one. The previous owner kept the one off of this.

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From left to right: 2 tall shift arms are to shift the 8-16 transmission. The left foot pedal is left brake, the middle is clutch on the model A, and the right pedal is right brake. The tall arm with the lock is to apply both brakes. To shift the model A you have to reach up over the 8-16 trans.

Looking at some of the pictures that Tony posted makes me think that perhaps the frame is from the 8-16 tractor, it seems to have similar bends in it. The only thing that doesnt have me convinced is that the frame is one large U-shape and the 8-16 tractors were square at the front. The rounded front was cut down shorter, but I do not see any other welds or cuts on the frame rails. Perhaps the frame is from another piece of equipment or tractor, It fits the transmission well though. I do not doubt that the Doodlebug is home built, it was done really well, but not well enough to be factory. The big selling point for me was that it is quite unusual as it is a lot heavier than most that were made.

Tad

46 Chevy OS 1.5 ton, 48 & 49 IH KBS-8-1, 51 IH L195 Wrecker, 60 IH RF195, 64 F250 16ft flatbed, 65 Datsun 320, 72 IH Travelall
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IH 8-16 tractor transmission. http://www.tractorshed.com/cgi-bin/shed.cgi?ag17_007.jpg


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I think the early AA's came with a 3 spd box the 4 spd came along shortly.

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Is there more story about who built this for what purpose? Can you take a larger picture of the large gearbox?

I can't visualize the input drive and chain spocket arrangement on the rear gearbox, with the stacks of cast housings sitting above it. Is there a winch drive on top?

I wonder if this was a special application industrial or mining design? The I beam frame is bent too well, the cast iron gearboxes, and other components are heavier and specialized for the normal Model A conversion.

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Don't discount your ford dealer, these part numbers are still in the system.

Last time I bought a set of points for a AA I went to the Ford dealer they laughed and I asked him to check anyway. Ford had it in stock.

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Jungerfrosch (28/10/2013)
Not sure if I will be able to get to the Doodlebug at all this winter.....I've got to get another project going that has been sitting way too long....but I can at least start the search for parts so I have everything(hopefully) in place for when spring comes.

It's always fun getting a new project and being able to learn about the particulars of another make. I'm hoping my engine does just have a stuck valve, and that I can get it going relatively easily.

I'll be posting want ads around soon, and the list will grow, but I know I will need:
-exhaust manifold (mine is broken, been previously broken and welded, and is rusted through)
-Carburetor
-Oil fill cap
-Distributor
-2 Ford Model AA rims
-2 Mack rims(still trying to determine what exactly will fit)
-I'm sure these will be considerably difficult to find, and perhaps cost prohibitive for a Doodlebug.

I really appreciate everybody's help

Tad
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Just something that might help: All Ford left hand wheels had left hand threads.

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Not sure if I will be able to get to the Doodlebug at all this winter.....I've got to get another project going that has been sitting way too long....but I can at least start the search for parts so I have everything(hopefully) in place for when spring comes.

It's always fun getting a new project and being able to learn about the particulars of another make. I'm hoping my engine does just have a stuck valve, and that I can get it going relatively easily.

I'll be posting want ads around soon, and the list will grow, but I know I will need:
-exhaust manifold (mine is broken, been previously broken and welded, and is rusted through)
-Carburetor
-Oil fill cap
-Distributor
-2 Ford Model AA rims
-2 Mack rims(still trying to determine what exactly will fit)
-I'm sure these will be considerably difficult to find, and perhaps cost prohibitive for a Doodlebug.

I really appreciate everybody's help

Tad

46 Chevy OS 1.5 ton, 48 & 49 IH KBS-8-1, 51 IH L195 Wrecker, 60 IH RF195, 64 F250 16ft flatbed, 65 Datsun 320, 72 IH Travelall
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“I wish my numbers were as clear as the ones in the picture you posted.”

Yeah I bought a gallon of white lead from a paint shop in CA that was running from the greenies.Rub a little into the numbers and wipe off the excess. Leaves a nice contrast. I tried to buy the rest of his zinc chromate and red lead but they already had the cuffs on him.

Pull the head and side valve cover and you’ll have access to both pistons and valves. Free the valves and clean up the cylinders and you should be on your way to getting it running.

You may have to heat the head nuts if they don’t come easily. You don’t want to brake off the studs or have them come with the nuts. Drive four or more screw driver wedges into the head gasket to pop it off. If it doesn’t won’t to come put the nuts back on flush with the top of the studs. Keep tunking on the nuts with a hammer as if you were playing vibes. That should free the head from the studs.


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The B heads have a 3 bolt water pump instead of 4 from what I've read.

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