Fred Dyke emailed me and clued me in on where the engine s/n should be. I found the boss on the drivers side at the top of the block adjacent to the head, towards the front of the engine. The WC has the big motor, the 280A. The WB which has the Mustang engine was only stamped "SB" with no numbers, so it is still a mystery. The engine compartments on both trucks are nearly identical, so I'm pretty sure it is either the 260A or 280A. GCPete, I'll take a look below the oil filter tomorrow and see if there is anything there. Thanks for the help so far.

Here is a shot of the grille for Jim. These old Whites had classic styling and the massive chrome grille is an attention getter.



Jeff

The aesthetic design of these trucks was by Count Alexis De Sakhnoffsky White must have been very serious about the "look" of their trucks
http://www.coachbuilt.com/des/d/desakhnoffsky/desakhnoffsky.htm

PS He also did work for Packard!

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Steve Peterson
Central Wisconsin

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I just glanced down through that article that Steve linked, I'm really going to have to take a month and read that.(it's long) That man's designs were great, the fantastic streamline design was his specialty. Looks like he had a hand in a bunch of US vehicle designs, including Chrysler air flow, IH trucks, and Auburn.

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Thanks Jeff. Certainly the classic look and influence from the end of the art deco period. What passes today for design is a pale comparison.

Jim

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I'm making some progress on identifying components. The transmission in the WB is a White 506B, a 5 speed with 5th direct. This transmission is original to the truck, but it is locked in gear. I don't know if it is a shifter problem or something internal. I'm not too worried about it right now. The transmission in the WC is a White 556B, with 5th OD. Both the 280A engine and the 556B transmission in the WC were available in the WB, so if they check out ok they will go in the WB. As for the rears, Tad is right about the suspension, it is Hendrickson walking beam. The power divider and rears are Eaton. I need some help identifying which model they are. I don't know if these numbers mean anything, but on the front rear I found 1 number, 37846. On the rear rear I found 2 numbers, 468512, & 34403. The rear rear is also stamped 7.06, so I guess I won't be going anywhere in a hurry. I'm not surprised about the low gearing, Ken told me the truck was used for lowboy work in South Dakota. I still haven't been able to get any numbers off the brownie, the fuel tank is directly over the top where all the numbers are. I haven't been able to get a mirror in to read anything. Hopefully it is OD.

Jeff

Jeff, are you keeping the tandems?

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Steve Peterson
Central Wisconsin

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Yes.

Jeff

Jeff, I agree with Park Olson that White used the Mustang name for their flathead engines after the Super Power name-so looks like it could be a replacement engine. The Super Mustangs were the Reo based o.h.v. engines. I have seen a very similar air brake Eaton/Hendrickson rearend in a 1956 International RF195-Eaton 34M seems to ring a bell. Later Eaton tandems were what they called a "through drive" setup where the shaft for the rear diff came out the back of the front diff head.

Thanks Hamish. I didn't get a chance to look the rears over again today, but they do look like they are from the '50's to me. However I finally found the tag on the brownie, and was surprised to find the White logo on it. It is not original to the truck, but it was available. Unfortunately the model number is not on the tag (or I can't make it out), but the White part number is 32023. I believe this is one of the BL 703 series, but there are 5 different variations so I would like to know which one I have. It should be a 3 speed. I'm guessing the "BL" prefix means that these were actually built by Brown-Lipe ? Did White build their own main transmissions ?

I'm in agreement that the Mustang engine in the WB is a replacement. I'm still curious about which model it is but I can look it over better when it is out of the truck.

I have seen the formula here many times for calculating top speed but I have never written it down. 10.00 x 20 tires, 7.06 rears, 7.88 to 1 od in the main, and either .84 or .75 to 1 od in the aux. Engine is governed at 2800 rpm (although it is probably not wise to run a 65 year old engine at redline), so how fast (fast being a relative term) could I expect this truck to go at say, 24 or 2500 ? Assuming I could afford the pay the gas bill LOL !

Jeff

My '56 WC22 has a Clark 5sp OD trans and 2 speed Eaton rear axle. I don't know the gear ratio but I think 50 mph is about all she'll do. Speedo doesn't work so I just have to guesstimate. The 250A engine is governed at 2800 rpm, I don't try to push it too hard. These are probably very tough engines considering how much weight they were expected to move.

Take some pictures of the engines showing the heads, carb and distributor. I'd like to compare it with a 250A. I've been seeing this engine on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-White-Truck-6-cylinder-Flat-Head-White-Mustang-Gasoline-Engine-Vintage-/321191383821?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac87f930d&vxp=mtr

I need an engine for my '51 WC22 Jumbo cab but this probably wouldn't fit a smaller truck. It might fit the WB28.