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What Am I for Tuesday 8/07/12

Posted By Jeff Lakaszcyck 8 Years Ago
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Some military trucks. See if you can name all 3. Photo from Gordon M.

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Lorain Moto-Crane, White half-track, Pacific M25 or M26 Dragon Wagon.
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I have to go with my first impression...................

Bantam crane............White halftrack...........Pacific

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Isn't the lowboy a Knuckey?
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Bantam Crane,White half-track,and Knuckey on the lowboy.
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Bay City crane, White, Pacific
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Definately a Pacific. I had the pleasure of driving one last year in Wisconsin. After I rebuilt the fuel pump on it, Kevin said "John go take it for a spin" thats all I neeed to hear. Another item to scratch off the bucket list. A couple of cool things about driving a Pacific are: listening to the chain drive with oil being flung everywhere, and the flame that shoots out of the exhaust everytime you shift the transmission!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but boy does it it get hot sitting next to that Hall Scott engine..........

An interesting thing about the brakes on it are there are no steer axle brakes. You would think with the weight it could tow you would have front brakes. Even with power steering it is a BEAST to drive but oh what fun :):)

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1942 Ward LaFrance M1 series 2
1944 Ward LaFrance M1A1 series 5
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1945 Mack NO7

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An interesting thing about the brakes on it are there are no steer axle brakes. You would think with the weight it could tow you would have front brakes. Even with power steering it is a BEAST to drive but oh what fun :):)

John G


I'm not commenting, except Jeff will give extra points for model numbers ...... tractor, trailer, track, and crane ......

John raises an interesting point about front axle brakes on these heavy trucks. Apparently when you were running up close to the 100 ton gross weight, and you stood on the brakes, all that weight transferred to the front axle on the tractor and broke it. Apparently the most common failures on trucks like these were the front axle, due to the weight of the armoured cab, and the rear hub bolts, due to overloading.



so - model numbers anyone?

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One nice thing about these standardized military vehicles, there are lots of right answers, especially when there is not a lot of detail in the photo. Perhaps the easiest is the halftrack, built by White but could just as easily be an Autocar. The big tank transporter is a Pacific M26 with the armored cab; the softskin version would be an M26A1. Knuckey built the prototype M26, but all the production models were built by Pacific Car & Foundry (PACCAR), and these models continued to use the Knuckey dual chain drive rear bogie. Finally we have the 6x6 crane truck, another standardized model. This truck is either a Bay City 18T-50 or a Thew-Lorain T6 or M2. Both of these, I believe, were rated at 20,000 lbs. It looks like Rocket had this 1st. The Army crane in the last photo is a Thew-Lorain. Gordon, feel free to correct me if I got any of this wrong.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/0491576f-0dd9-40ab-b9d4-21be.jpg

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You are pretty much on the money Jeff.

Tractor is a vanilla M26, trailer is a Fruehuaf M15, and not the later M15A1. I had the track down as a Whites M2 as they were numerically more common than the other makes and it is obviously not an International.

Crane appears to be a Bay City 18T-50 or close, rather than a Thew - note the lack of boom support. With a ten ton maximum load, that Whites M2 will be a good nine tons, maybe a hair less with one track gone.

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