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Since my truck was spec'd for constant stop-go house to house that must be the reason it has a twelve. SE three compartment tank, don't recall the volume, with the spring brake protected tank also special order.

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I just thought of the fact that some of those compressors might be for air over hydraulic. Would that make any difference or would it still be say a 7.5 for instance. When did Air-Pac come out?
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The 7 1/4 was the std for a full air braked  tractor. But most were single screw with a single axle trailer in the early days. Still, its CFM rating would be enough for a five axle rig with a single air system. Air brakes have got so much more complicated in recent times, so many more valves and connections, each a potential source of leak.
 Since to dual brake system 12 CFM is the std, but the newest compressors are much bigger with ABS traction control, and all the other stuff they put on trucks today.

I don't remember the exact requirement, but  it is that the system must recharge from cut in pressure to cut out at rated RPM in a set time limit. There is some adjustment in the time based on how many/large the air tank capacity of the system.
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Its no trouble on my end, but there is a lot of pages to copy over.


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This BW book is quite the deal, all their air valves,brake pots, switches, oddly enough a lot of that stuff is still available the trouble is is having the part number to find it.
 Tony I'll have to look to see what H parts book I have, I do have a master book that is twice the size of the BW and it covers all the blower motors and i think the H's, but i may have smaller books also.

 This is beginning to sound like it is going to be a lot of trouble. For both of us for that mater. Why don't we let it go and if I, we need some really special info we'll just call Aaron.



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This BW book is quite the deal, all their air valves,brake pots, switches, oddly enough a lot of that stuff is still available the trouble is is having the part number to find it.
 Tony I'll have to look to see what H parts book I have, I do have a master book that is twice the size of the BW and it covers all the blower motors and i think the H's, but i may have smaller books also.


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Thanks Jeff,

The 120A engine in Sterling #1 seems to be a 1939. They had a different carb in 1940. I haven't narrowed down the dates of the 140A or 160AX yet. I'm not sure if the engine SN's would tell the approximate build date or not.  The 140A SN is 16378. It has a Brown Lipe model 364 4 speed tranny and I haven't found any markings on the transfer case yet. The transfer case has a spring steel mount that just sits on the top of the frame rails like in the halftracks i've seen. I guess they used that same design in the trucks as well. That truck and engine are both in pretty poor shape so are not a high priority for me right now, I've been borrowing parts off it to finish up the DC26 tractor, and may need to find another engine to replace it eventually.
Was the White 362 ci engine the 140A?
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I just thought of the fact that some of those compressors might be for air over hydraulic. Would that make any difference or would it still be say a 7.5 for instance. When did Air-Pac come out?
Another thought, did White offer a choice of vendor for air system? At least for a number of years Harvester had "IH Air Brake System" as standard, which was actually Midland, with BW offered as optional. My truck was line coded as BW, but still some items like the trolley and spring brake valves are Midland as are the from chambers. I am sure the parts are original and have not been changed out. IH also later on offered Anchorlock spring brake cans optional in place of standard MGM.

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John, welcome to JOT. The White scout cars had Hercules engines, but all the White, Autocar, and Diamond T halftracks used the 160AX, but you are right that they did not have airbrakes. The only White truck I can think of with a White engine and a transfer case is the 950x6 4 ton 6x6 which was built 1939-40. It used a White 362 ci flathead six and it did use air brakes.

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Been there, done that, got the Tee shirt1
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I sat on my hands too long and missed that compressor on ebay. Maybe our friend got it ?

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