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1951 Ford F4 Coleman AWD, new guy needs a manual

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thundersnow70 (7/6/2015)
Thanks Craig, I got the email. The F4 does have 20 inch lockring budd wheels. Coleman changed the offset of the rear wheels so they would track with the front. From the ford data tag the truck was born with drw 18 inch widow makers, then Coleman must have installed the 20 inch wheels. I have also wondered about the power yoke and if that is what I will find when the drum is off. Something makes me doubt it. Just from the pics I have seen of the power yoke. This setup looks alot like what MH did. Only with a larger hub. Time will tell. I will keep everyone up to date as it comes apart and any pics you want or need just let me know. 

Thanks again,  
             Mark


Hey Mark, 

Thanks for the various interesting detials!   Yes, I think many of us would be extremely interested in what the Budd wheels will look like as you take the assembly apart.  Pictures please!  I think a photo of the Ford data tag would also help tell the story.   

We look forward to your progress...

Keep Calm and Coleman On!
Craig



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Thanks Craig, I got the email. The F4 does have 20 inch lockring budd wheels. Coleman changed the offset of the rear wheels so they would track with the front. From the ford data tag the truck was born with drw 18 inch widow makers, then Coleman must have installed the 20 inch wheels. I have also wondered about the power yoke and if that is what I will find when the drum is off. Something makes me doubt it. Just from the pics I have seen of the power yoke. This setup looks alot like what MH did. Only with a larger hub. Time will tell. I will keep everyone up to date as it comes apart and any pics you want or need just let me know. 

Thanks again,  
             Mark
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thundersnow70 (7/2/2015)
Hey hey, thanks for checking in Craig. Dont take me the wrong way, I'm just super excited to have and tear into the big old Ford. And if you have what I need it will be amazing. If you are on vacation and see Don tell him the Marmon Herrington fan club says hi. He wont remember me but I'm sure he would know Chuck, Stu and Dana. Thanks.

And take your time, my excitement isnt your problem.

Regards....Mark


Hey Mark, 

Check your email, I just sent you what I think you may need...

Please keep us posted on your Ford F-4 project.  I think many of us would like to see photos as you dissemble the front axle.  I am curious whether it has the standard Coleman "power yoke" under what appear to be Budd wheels.

Keep Calm and Coleman On!
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Hey hey, thanks for checking in Craig. Dont take me the wrong way, I'm just super excited to have and tear into the big old Ford. And if you have what I need it will be amazing. If you are on vacation and see Don tell him the Marmon Herrington fan club says hi. He wont remember me but I'm sure he would know Chuck, Stu and Dana. Thanks.

And take your time, my excitement isnt your problem.

Regards....Mark
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thundersnow70 (6/29/2015)
The flat bed was just sitting on the truck but I got it in the sale. It is off now and will be flipped to help recover some cost. The color makes me wonder who the original owner was. I dont remember seeing a completely yellow truck out of the ford factory. At the least the grill should be white. Must have been special order for someone. Flathead V8, syncro silent 4speed, standard cab with magic air heater. Odometer reads 30000. Does anyone know Craig Trout, he seems to know his way around the Colemans. Can someone contact him and ask him to chime in? Thanks


Sorry for the delay, I am on travel, but I think I have exactly what you need.  I will send it this weekend...

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Don Chew is a legend in the world of pre-factory AWD. I talked to him years ago after I bought my first MH. That must have been 15 years ago or more. I have seen pictures of Dons collection. He has a reputation in the MH world as well as Colemans. I know very little about the Colemans but know quite a few players in the Marmons. The smaller ones anyway. I'm gonna have to get that Coleman book when it comes out.








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I'm guessing he'll be along soon. He's working with Don Chew getting a new book on Coleman's ready to go to the publisher.

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The flat bed was just sitting on the truck but I got it in the sale. It is off now and will be flipped to help recover some cost. The color makes me wonder who the original owner was. I dont remember seeing a completely yellow truck out of the ford factory. At the least the grill should be white. Must have been special order for someone. Flathead V8, syncro silent 4speed, standard cab with magic air heater. Odometer reads 30000. Does anyone know Craig Trout, he seems to know his way around the Colemans. Can someone contact him and ask him to chime in? Thanks
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Welcome to JOT Mark. I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for here.

It's best to post your pictures here directly from your computer and not linked from another site.




I'm looking forward to seeing this project.



Tony


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