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By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
Maybe we should have a cooking and fine food thread...... Oooops, nevermind!
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
I experiment with some cooking and different recipes, but I have FULLY mastered the eating part!
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
[quote]Michelle Cole (30/03/2013)
I know this is not the best picture. It has a little too much light to be able to see real good, but can anyone tell me what aircraft cockpit I was in when I made the picture? If you have been in one you will recognize it at once.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/926f48b6-b096-4d48-aff8-794b.jpg[/q

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I will guess Huey helicopter.
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
I know nothing about planes so I need clarification on Jeff's pictures.

There is clearly snow on the ground and the planes have pontoons mounted. Is there some water nearby or are they landing on snow using pontoons instead of a ski?


Nevermind....after some morning java, I can see the wheels. Thank goodness for coffee
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
I still know nothing about planes, but in Michelle's mystery photo that since has been revealed the plane has windshield wipers. Initially, that made me think the photo was of a helicopter.

Then, I thought more about it and wonder what the rotor action would have on wipers?

What is a quick break down on what gets wipers or not? What is the max mph that they are feasible?
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
That's pretty funny!

Probably lots of stories out there.
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
While flipping channels on the tv a couple of years ago, I stopped on an old "American Chopper" episode where they put a small setup on a bike that was being built for a plane or helicopter company.

Jim
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/3f9fb33b-a9fe-48bb-9b5c-1832.JPG

An interesting tug with a low cabin on the right and tall cab on the left.

Jim
By jhancock - 9 Years Ago
Thanks Jeff!

It is behind some wire with a fine selection of poison ivy that kept me from exploring.

I don't do well with poison ivy!

No doubt, it is a big boy.

Jim
By 251 - 9 Years Ago
John Hanson (10/05/2013)
You might be more apt to recognize it in this paint scheme, which it wore during it's career in a TV series called "Tails of the Gold Monkey". It was also featured in a movie called Comando.


So it was in the movie 'Commando' starring Arnold Schwarzenegger? IIRC it was painted solid white or silver - been a few years since I've seen this movie.
By Geoff Weeks - 9 Years Ago
Never bet against John when it comes to aircraft, esp piston engine aircraft.
By Geoff Weeks - 9 Years Ago
Can you imagine the fuel bill on 4) 4360's today? I agree about being the best of the best for our nation.

Sort of off topic, but could you imagine the result if some nation did to air force one, what we did to the Bolivian presidents plane? How times have changed!
By PZ 1 - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (01/04/2013)
Another of Bill's Autocar / plane pics -- anybody know of this WWII era trucking co.??

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8157/7288795746_340dc7b2dd_b.jpg


Probably a fictitious company - it is a drawing.
By PZ 1 - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (03/04/2013)
PZ 1 (03/04/2013)
eymurphey (01/04/2013)
Another of Bill's Autocar / plane pics -- anybody know of this WWII era trucking co.??



Probably a fictitious company - it is a drawing.


So here's the story. I knew the artist, Bill Cambell, and all his works used real trucking companies. Sadly most are now defunct. I have managed to find info. on most, but this is not one of them.


I hadn't read the text.

Only found an obituary:

Waterloo Daily CourierWednesday, September 10, 1941, Waterloo, Iowa


Lloyd G. Moser
Dies in California
Truck Fleet Operator Former
Waterloo Resident.
Lloyd G. Moser, 49, former resident of Black Hawk county, died Tuesday at his home in Los Angeles,
Cal., ol a heart attack.
He was operator of a fleet of fast freight trucks running between Los Angeles and San Francisco.
His mother, Mrs. Jacob Moser, 800 Campbell avenue, accompanied by his sister. Mrs. J. D. Plum, Polo, Ill.,
and his brothers, A. J. Moser, 915 Franklin street, Cedar Falls, and Glenn W., of Perry, Ia., left Wednesday morning for Los Angeles to attend funeral services.
Born in Orange Township.
He was born on Feb. 10. 1892 on a farm in Orange township Black Hawk county. Iowa, the son of Mr.
and Mrs. Jacob Moser. In 1908 he moved with his parents to Montrose, Colo. He had been a resident of
Los Angeles for 19 years.
-continues with family information.



By Stretch - 9 Years Ago
Thanks for letting us ride along with you Kevin.
By Bruehawk - 9 Years Ago
Not sure which pidgeon hole this fits into, probably both aviation and trucking.

De-mobbed F-111 on its way through town this week enroute to a muesum in Adelaide S.A.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/ff540be7-cbc9-43bf-87a9-56bd.jpg
By Bruehawk - 9 Years Ago
Not sure which pidgeon hole this fits into, probably both aviation and trucking.

De-mobbed F-111 on its way through town this week enroute to a muesum in Adelaide S.A.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/ff540be7-cbc9-43bf-87a9-56bd.jpg
By Bruehawk - 9 Years Ago
John, glad you posted the pics of the Grumann Goose, I took this pic about 8 years ago at Bundaberg Queensland and always wondered what type of plane it was now I know.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/1b4add10-c9e3-4057-9da0-9d99.JPG
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
We do apologize for hijacking the Coleman thread. So please if you guys want to talk a little aviation, please do it here. I will be adding a little more here tomorrow.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Jim, I remember well the B-25's at Rockdale. In the mid to late 70s when the old road went past the airport I had come through Rockdale several times and either one or two of the B-25's were very visible sitting on the ramp in a sad state of disrepair and neglect. I had so wanted to stop and look them over but as usual I did not have the time to do so.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Wolfcreek_Steve (30/03/2013)
I make the best succotash you will ever taste! I grow the beans from heirloom seed carried from Scotland by an ancestor of mine a couple of centuries ago. (and I don't brag much) LOL


GREAT SUFFERING SUCCOTASH.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
I made some pretty good chicken and dumplings this week. My mom and I have been eating on them for several days. I think tonight will be the last night.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
I know this is not the best picture. It has a little too much light to be able to see real good, but can anyone tell me what aircraft cockpit I was in when I made the picture? If you have been in one you will recognize it at once.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/926f48b6-b096-4d48-aff8-794b.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Nope, not a Huey.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/6088d8b7-2730-4433-80ed-c41d.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/007900b2-87b9-41ed-ac33-4365.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Kevin, it the first video of the B-17, when it was waiting to get on the runway, it looked like the number 4 engine was turning so slow that you could have stepped between the blades without being hit.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
I just love this picture. It is about what this country used to be about as you can get. Early fifties, the aircraft is a Pan Am Boeing Stratacruiser, the cream of the crop of prop aircraft. The Constellation was a more graceful looking aircraft but the Stratacruisers with the four R 4360's was a faster aircraft.


http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/e83db5bb-4d91-4ec0-bac0-1df8.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Kevin, I know your right about the economy of the DC-6 and 7's they were nice aircraft and no one can argue the beauty and gracefulness of the Connies, and there's no doubt the Super Connies were fierce competitors in the long range market along with the DC 7C's. The Boeing Stratacruisers were as pretty out side but they were elegant inside with the spiral staircase that led down to the lower lever with the bar. There is no doubt that the R 4360s burned some serious fuel but they were fast and when someone was looking for a fast trip across the pond they would call for a Pan Am Stratacruiser.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
kblackav8or (15/07/2013)
Pitot is pronounced "PEE-TOW"

I thought about finding an old air speed indicator and putting a Pitot tube on my truck as kind of a joke. I would need one from a slow airplane or helicopter as they need to have about 30mph of airspeed before they will show much of anything. You can get them calibrated for MPH and Knots. Really a pretty simple device, they take the air pressure rammed down the tube and convert that into needle movement.


For years I have had an altimeter in my pick up. I acquired an 89,000 foot altimeter from salvage that was accurate up to about 30,000 feet, after that it started reading way off scale. It served my purposes well. The highest I have ever been with it is to the top of Pikes Peak which is just over 14,000 feet. Another instrument that is self sustaining as all it needs is to read barometric pressure. It is so sensitive that you can have the windows down and raise them and the pressure will increase and you will drop about twenty to thirty feet on the on the altimeter.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Murphey, I have to agree the P 38 was a fine looking aircraft. Very few of them left anymore. You have some really neat models. I was very impressed with all the pictures. I used to build a few model aircraft, but I gave them all away the last time I made a major move.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
This is one of favorite pictures from WW II. The women are WASP (Womens Army Service Pilots). The flew new aircraft from the factories to air bases and ferried aircraft all over the country to where ever they were needed. Many of these women were killed by malfunctioning aircraft leaving the factory for the first time. They were a tough breed to say the least. I just wish I had been born about twenty years earlier so I could have joined them.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/b1b11c70-e5fc-491a-bb92-e4f2.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Bill White (12/04/2013)
IH K and DC-4

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/fd91967c-3238-4995-a21c-eed7.jpg


Bill, that is sort of a mystery aircraft. The four bladed prop says DC 7, but the DC 7 prop was bigger than the props on this aircraft
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Dieseldoug (12/04/2013)
Hey Chelle.

Do you know why the AF wouldn't like pilots over 40 fly the Connies ???


Yeah, I sure do. By the time they were 40 they were considered to old to handle three pieces of tail at one time. That's why I hung out with the older guys, they were less app to have more than one girlfriend.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
How many have heard of the Lady Be Good? The Lady Be Good is a WW II B-24 that disappeared on a bombing run from Wheelus AFB in Lybia to Italy. After crossing the Mediterranean they developed some engine problems and had to turn back. Because they flew over in flights of multiple aircraft they used a path finder navigator, meaning only one navigator was working and the rest were following the lead navigator. Because of this when they turned back the navigator on the Lady Be Good did not realize that they had a head wind going over, thus giving them a tail wind on the way back giving them a much greater ground speed that they Nav thought he had. They were already well past Tropoli when they thought they should be getting close. They were looking for the lights ofthe base and kept on flying until they ran out of fuel. The crew bailed out of the aircraft and the B-24 crash landed but never exploaded. Sixteen years later an oil exploration crew discovered the B-24 and notified the Air Force. They sent out a crew in a C-47 to identify the aircraft and see if any remains were with it. To their surprise the B-24 was very well preserved by the dry desert. On the way from Wheelus field the ADF on the C-47 went out. Just for grins one of the crewmen took the ADF from the Lady Be Good and put it in the C-47. It still worked after all these years. One of the guys pulled the trigger on one of the 50 Calibers and it started firing. The next year the Air Force recovered eight of the nine crewmen that were on the Lady Be Good. The had determined that they had over flown Wheelus field and had started walking back in the direction of the field. I have read the story of the Lady Be Good years ago and used to know just how far some of them made it back. It was a remarkable distance considering the lack of water they they had with them.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/0b706a8b-821f-41aa-8205-2c35.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/2ff7e3c4-d15a-434f-9ca8-bee1.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/d7322909-6213-4dcd-a1a3-98aa.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/34a720db-4fb9-4edc-aac7-bd01.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
A nice picture with a couple of trucks thrown in for good measure.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/9f8fb811-c2fa-41e7-9552-b7bc.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
A C-54 with a few trucks.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/38288e01-270b-4d25-9a11-6b0d.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Another Connie Super G. Did you know that the Air Force wouldn't let a pilot over 40 years of age fly the Connie?

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/9fadd4b5-2279-44db-9fe8-279c.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
They called him "Reverse Flight" Corrigan -- Know why?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6798861775_511e688f16_o.jpg


I always heard him called wrong way Corrigan. He flew from New York to the Brithish Isles when he was supposed to going to California. Some say he did it on purpose but he claimed it was supposidly by accident
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Hamish (07/04/2013)
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
Start naming them ---

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg
P38 Lightning being refuelled by a Chevy or GMC cabover Shell tanker with trailing axle or tandem drive conversion. I'll leave the other aircraft to the experts,


I see a bunch of c-47 across the flightline
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Wolfcreek_Steve (07/04/2013)
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
Start naming them ---

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg


I see 3 or 4 C-47s a B-24 and the one above the P-38s off-side aileron I don't know right off the bat.

Edit; the one above the Liberator appears to have 4 engines but I can't tell much more about it


Where's the B-17?
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
George, you are quite right about trucks and aircraft going together. Since I was about twelve or thirteen I was fascinated by big trucks and aircraft. I spent a career in the Air Force and was lucky enough to marry a trucker. I had the best of both worlds. The only bad thing about was the time apart we had to spend, it could get pretty discouraging sometime being apart. I have been asked many times how our marriage ever survived. I always tell people that I was gone half the time and he was gone the other half, and when we did get together we were so glad to see each other that couldn't get mad at each other.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Still no takers on the Aircraft cockpit. If no guesses by tomorrow I will post a picture of the aircraft.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
No correct guesses on the cockpit yet.
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
John, you and Wolf Creek Steve have it correct. Its the cockpit of the gracefull Connie. In my opinion the most beautiful propliner ever built.



The C-121 Super G, the longest range of all the Connies

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/7699fe15-70f5-4f84-975f-eedb.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
Another picture of the MATS Connie that George posted.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/30ffdc8b-6222-4468-9ea2-56f5.jpg
By Michelle Cole - 9 Years Ago
My favorite fighter of WW II was the beautifully designed P-51. I thought is was the best looking prop driven fighter ever built. Conversely I think the F-16 is the prettiest Jet fighter ever built.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/80a934b3-c266-4b60-8098-c15b.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/87899fcd-74bd-44f7-a538-aaba.jpg
By Ricky T - 9 Years Ago
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c103/rickyt54/LittleRhodyATCA2010072-1_zpsff2c0c96.jpg Little Rhody truckshow at Conn. Historical airport
By 359er - 9 Years Ago
Michelle, A very good idea here. I love old WW 2 aircraft. We have an Air National Guard training base west of Alpena 7 miles so we are used to hearing all kinds of aircraft noise at our house. I call it the sound of Freedom. My favorite fighter aircraft, the Mustang P51 D
By 359er - 9 Years Ago
Shifty, that is an SR71 Blackbird in your post.
By 359er - 9 Years Ago
As far as I know, there was only 2 B 70 Valkaries built. One crashed while on a photo op flight with a fighter jet accompaning it. Supposedly the fighter pilot goofed up and hit the Valkarie. The other one is in the Air Force Museum in Dayton Ohio.
By tundra - 9 Years Ago
dunno why i toke fer granted all the years in alaska truckin bizz
cause it is always a major interaction of trucks and reload ta boats and planes [prob more so than anywhere in the united states]
used ta always chase shedules ta transload
never thought ta take no pics of the 747 takin the windscreen outta the kw while on the tarmac durin the exxon valdez campain

the pilot cuuttin off number 4 engine onna dc6 durin takeoff ta clear the ex stack of onnea my trucks durin takeoff

or transloadi stuff [some by hand] from the flatbed onta c47;s and c46;s and dc6

prob aint nowhere that still runs so many ol prop planes as alaska does

also had some pics of the sr71;s and active u 2;s while i delived freight and visited my sister and brother in law while i had the clearence on the flight line at beal AFB years ago
....unfortainatly ex number 2 decided the pics werent important
By rubbishman - 9 Years Ago
Any Marines out there should know this one, the "Dog". I have a couple hours stick time. Only a couple still airworthy that I know of, although a few of the S-58 Twin-Pac turbine conversions are still in use.http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/02b956bc-3771-4e9c-8f9f-7674.jpg
By rubbishman - 9 Years Ago
John, guys told me in 'Nam you could hear the cussing all the way back to CONUS! Just to change out a carb.

H.S. Blake
By Brocky - 9 Years Ago
Kevin

Thanks for posting the link. Very interesting reading.
By Mike garrett - 9 Years Ago
So do yah think this thread is gonna fly?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

sorry folks it's been a long day:)
By Dieseldoug - 9 Years Ago
Hey Chelle.

Do you know why the AF wouldn't like pilots over 40 fly the Connies ???
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Skip (30/03/2013)
Well, I hate to brag (no I don't), but 18 years ago I made our wedding cake from an old English cookbook. It was summer and the windows were open, and since it took about six hours for the 3 layers to cook, the neighbors were crowding around like there was free money involved. Right now I have a second batch of orange-chocolate muffins in the oven, but the windows are closed. They go in our Easter baskets to the neighbors.:D



Wouldn't a new English cookbook have tasted better????
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
So, let's hijack this thread (sort of):rolleyes: and get back to old trucks (sort of):). Anybody tell me what the KW truck has in common with the B-29's?


http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/kenworthgasturbine_02_1000.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
ppsyclone (30/03/2013)
Well it has a Boeing gas turbine engine and the B29 was built by Boeing


You are absolutely correct ---
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Ahh -- Trucks and aircraft, best of both worlds. Here a Boeing gas turbine powered Freigtliner --- a Boing model 533 turbine ---


http://www.commercialmotor.com/Media/Default/BlogPost/big-lorry-blog/1960_turbo.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Any takers on truck make? I don't know about the plane --

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/a5908a19-f308-46a9-ac4c-6849.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
TonyClemens (31/03/2013)
The truck looks like a White.



Don't tell Jeff I hijacked the WAI:w00t:!! White it is!! Still working on the plane!!
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
glenn akers (13/05/2013)
Pitot tube ?



Perhaps something else I missed, but not what I or a the pilot would be looking for on the real plane -----
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
OLPs59KW (13/05/2013)
Would it be the door for the pilot access



Yep -- couldn't get in else http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mch0pbsvuS1rx7ncwo1_1280.jpgwise!!!
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Putting up this photo of one of my favorite planes. It is actually a photo of a model. Can anyone tell me what's wrong here? I spotted it right away.


http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/e41d4b9b-1fc4-4b6e-8a2e-bd37.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Skip (11/05/2013)
Weren't there also aircraft by Grumman called Teal and Widgeon?



The Widgeon --


http://www.ptialaska.net/~smharvey/images/photo_album/large_images/flying_widgeon.jpg



Grumman had no aircraft that were called "Teal" ---
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Gordon_M (11/05/2013)
eymurphey (11/05/2013)
Putting up this photo of one of my favorite planes. It is actually a photo of a model. Can anyone tell me what's wrong here? I spotted it right away.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/e41d4b9b-1fc4-4b6e-8a2e-bd37.jpg


I'd have expected the prop to have more blades, for a start.


Nope -- It's not the prop, it was only a two blade. And these photos will not help solve this mystery ----

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5244/5265799081_7b15dbb36a_z.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5213/5385427477_6cd505b20b_z.jpg



By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Wolfcreek_Steve (11/05/2013)
riveted construction is wrong.


No -- plane did use flush rivets where metal panels were used behind the engine and around the fuel tank

http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/usa/granville_r-1-s.gif



Clue --- the same thing is missing on this photo of a model of the R-2, sister ship of the R-1.

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/2bhjk.2cwxu/v/vspfiles/photos/GBR233-2.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Still wondering if you've figured out what is missing from the Gee Bee --

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/a18d19c8-a39b-4747-95af-73d4.JPG


http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/110429c9-d56f-4d52-ba75-8cdb.jpg


http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/d4f6feac-833a-4327-9b78-5034.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Hamish (13/05/2013)
[quote]eymurphey (12/05/2013)
Still wondering if you've figured out what is missing from the Gee Bee --

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/a18d19c8-a39b-4747-95af-73d4.JPG

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/110429c9-d56f-4d52-ba75-8cdb.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/d4f6feac-833a-4327-9b78-5034.jpg


Some louvres on the top of the fuselage, behind the engine cowling on the real aircraft that are absent on the model.[/quote





Here is the original pic I posted for the question -- and you found something I missed. Good catch, but still looking for something else, and for that matter, so would the pilot if this were the real plane --

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/2c9b3a7f-a1c7-4c9e-8cdb-9b18.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Shifty (13/04/2013)
Bought a picture frames today at a yard sale.
This picture of a P 38 was in one.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/726cf2c5-5e09-4335-8f09-c148.jpg


Historical Note:

Colonel Charles Henry "Mac" MacDonald, USAF, (November 23, 1914 – March 3, 2002) was an American fighter ace. MacDonald commanded the 475th Fighter Group for 20 months in his P-38 Lightning, "Putt Putt Maru" with the unit number "100" and becoming the third ranking fighter ace in the Pacific during World War II


By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
http://www.kowabunga.org/images/pictures/military_aviation/p38/putt_putt_maru.jpg

http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/298/pics/3_45.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
The truck is the easy part -- what is the plane???

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7170603932_d9ecf8eb73_z.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Hamish (05/05/2013)
eymurphey (04/05/2013)
The truck is the easy part -- what is the plane???

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7170603932_d9ecf8eb73_z.jpg


Could it be a British Gloster Meteor.



That it is!!
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Bill White (05/05/2013)
Meteor
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/cf057d67-cc45-49a5-93c7-2fd6.jpg

eymurphey (05/05/2013)
Hamish (05/05/2013)
eymurphey (04/05/2013)
The truck is the easy part -- what is the plane???

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7170603932_d9ecf8eb73_z.jpg


Could it be a British Gloster Meteor.


That it is!!






BILL -- CAN'T P.M. YOU OR E-MAIL YOU, says you've exceeded your limit and your box is full --
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
My daughter Rebecca at the controls of a Cessna 172. Final approach to Burlington, N.C., instrument landing --- Runway visible @ 500ft.

By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Wolfcreek_Steve (07/04/2013)
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
Start naming them ---

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg


I see 3 or 4 C-47s a B-24 and the one above the P-38s off-side aileron I don't know right off the bat.

Edit; the one above the Liberator appears to have 4 engines but I can't tell much more about it


Not quit right -- no B-24, possibly 3 C-47's --- the rest is still up for grabs --
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Michelle Cole (07/04/2013)
Hamish (07/04/2013)
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
Start naming them ---

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg
P38 Lightning being refuelled by a Chevy or GMC cabover Shell tanker with trailing axle or tandem drive conversion. I'll leave the other aircraft to the experts,


I see a bunch of c-47 across the flightline


Look carefully, the plane behind the P-38's left stabilizer is not a C-47. The plane on the far right was made by Lockheed -- it carries a defunct car makers name. Funny nobodies identified the truck --
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg


Starting from left background (completely visible) --Boeing 307 Stratoliner, C-47, C-47, Lockheed Hudson, in the foreground is the P-38, truck is a GMC.
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Nothing like a CCKW and planes --

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/9cbd5a0c-0062-43cc-85a4-dd7e.jpg


http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/bd6b2925-c47f-4942-8fe5-625b.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
I believe it was 1973, my wife and I had been married one year, and we lived in OKC. We had an old 55 Chevy that I would kill for today and we drove it to Norman, Okla. to my first ever airshow with aircraft from the Confederate Air Force. Most of the pictures I took that day have been lost, but not the memories.

One of the best came from a man and a plane I still admire -- the man, Lefty Gardner, the plane, the P-38 known as "White Lightning. I can still hear those twin Allison's as he waited for take off clearance. They were actually a quite plane due to their set up. As Lefty hit transition point, he threw in the turbos, what happened next still amazes me for a prop plane -- he went nearly vertical, almost like an f-18 when it hits the afterburners. From that point Lefty put on a 1/2 hour airshow showing of the full capabilities of that plane. It was BEAUTIFUL!!

This ones for you Lefty --

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/6d8beae2-1aec-45d7-bcbd-9e2b.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
some great pics here of NYC airports back in the day --- trucks too!! NYC airport through the years
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
1943 IH International Trucks Ad WW II Boeing




http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2226/5715503191_6e6b782360_o.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Start naming them ---

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
GMC CCKW, Jeep, and P-51 == Does it get better than this??

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6792522503_8d86269e2b_z.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
My favoritism is showing --

A Spitfire of No. 19 Squadron is refuelled at Fowlmere, near Duxford, September 1940.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/A_Spitfire_of_No._19_Squadron_is_refuelled_at_Fowlmere%2C_near_Duxford%2C_September_1940._CH1372.jpg



By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Groundcrew refuelling Supermarine Spitfire Mark IIA, P7420, of No. 19 Squadron RAF from a tractor-drawn petrol bowser at Fowlmere, Cambridgeshire. This newly-arrived example was one of the few Spitfire Mark IIs to fly operationally with a front-line squadron before the end of the Battle of Britain.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Ground_staff_refuelling_a_Supermarine_Spitfire_Mk_IIA_of_No._19_Squadron_RAF_at_Fowlmere%2C_near_Duxford_in_Cambridgeshire%2C_September_1940._CH1357.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
From the Korean War --

Douglas A-26C Invader

Markings are for a B-26C bomber from the 34th Bomb Squadron (Light), 17th Bomb Wing (Light), Korea 1952-1953: 44-35684 “Toni C II” (it survived the war). In overall black with light green trim and red markings.



http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5128/5266405778_eba8352316_b.jpg

By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Now as far as the WWII Bombers go ----

Again I give 1st place to the Brits -- while not the most beautiful plane, well he--, it wasn't meant to be

I give you the Lancaster --

AVRO LANCASTER -- S for Sugar

The Lancaster pictured above represents Lancaster / R5868.

One famous aircraft was typical of, and ultimately came to symbolize, the men and machines of Royal Air Force Bomber Command. Flying initially with 83 Squadron Pathfinder Force, then 467 Squadron RAAF, Avro Lancaster serial number R5868, call sign S for Sugar, took part in almost every major attack on Germany between summer of 1942 and the end of hostilities. With the life expectancy of a new Lancaster being just a few months, it was a miracle she survived the war.

The mighty Lancaster, the mainstay of RAF Bomber Command, crewed by volunteers from Britain, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Rhodesia, South Africa, and many other nations opposed to Nazi rule, flew day and night sorties whenever there was a chance of reaching the target. Their unflinching courage and selfless devotion to duty paved the way for the D-Day invasion, and the ultimate liberation of Nazi occupied Europe.

Embellished with Goering’s infamous quotation “No Enemy Plane Will Fly Over The Reich Territory”, S for Sugar took her bombs to Berlin, Hamburg, Schweinfurt, Bremen, Hanover, Wurzburg, Munich, Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, and other prime targets, flying the second greatest number of operational sorties of any bomber in the Command. Time and again Sugar brought her crew home, often limping back riddled with flak and bullet holes, occasionally on three engines, and once all the way back from the German capital with a badly damaged wing following a mid-air collision over the target.

By the war’s end this trusty bomber had completed no fewer than 137 operations over enemy territory, bringing her crew home every time. Now magnificently restored to her former glory, S for Sugar resides in the RAF Museum at Hendon, providing a lasting tribute to the gallant men of RAF Bomber Command.


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5165/5262340828_e0be34282d_z.jpg


Then of course -- The Flying Fort -- B-17 -- not bad for a 30+ yr old model

Boeing B-17G

The Boeing B-17G represented above was known by its crew as the Chow Hound.

Better known as the “Flying Fortress,” the B-17G was a 10-seat, long-range medium bomber and reconnaissance aircraft. The B-17G was introduced in 1941 and eventually became the most common B-17 variant with production eventually totalling 8,680 aircraft. The Flying Fortress could reach a maximum speed of 287 mph when empty (or weighing 36,135 pounds). It featured thirteen 12.7mm machine-guns and could store 17,600 pounds of bombs for a maximum take-off weight of 72,000 pounds. The ‘Chow-hound’ belonged to the 322nd Bomber Squadron, 91st Bomber Group (RAF Bassingbourn).

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5128/5261112624_031798952b_z.jpg


And then the Liberator -- B-24 --

Consolidated B-24D-15-CO

"Moby Dick", an olive drab over gray B-24D-15-CO, serial number 41-24047, from the 90th Bomb Group, Fifth Air Force. Pilot Capt Norman Lawler, 90th BG adjutant, "Moby Dick" (possibly #41-24047)

B-24D-15-CO (41-24047)
Fate: Salvaged Stillwater, OK.
Disposed of Oct 1945

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5130/5269227466_017de5d943_z.jpg


Consolidated B-24J Liberator --- MARION

The aircraft in the above photo represents a B-24J of the 392 Bomber Group 8th Air Force ( H ) 577 Squadron serial # 42-94898. She was flown under two names, Marion and Terri Ann. While the photo model shows the craft with red engine cowls, the engine cowls were the same color as the overall craft. After flying 26 missions she returned to the U.S.A. in June of 1945. Anyone having further information about this aircraft and her crew please contact this post.


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5283/5262624172_ed90d17222_z.jpg



By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Another British fave, known more for it's role as a tank buster and low-level attack plane

Hawker Mk IB Typhoon

Typhoon Mk 1B SW409 Sqd. 245 1945 --- erroneously named.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5008/5257430551_4eae98013b_b.jpg


By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
PZ 1 (04/04/2013)
eymurphey (03/04/2013)
PZ 1 (03/04/2013)
eymurphey (01/04/2013)
Another of Bill's Autocar / plane pics -- anybody know of this WWII era trucking co.??



Probably a fictitious company - it is a drawing.


So here's the story. I knew the artist, Bill Cambell, and all his works used real trucking companies. Sadly most are now defunct. I have managed to find info. on most, but this is not one of them.


I hadn't read the text.

Only found an obituary:

Waterloo Daily CourierWednesday, September 10, 1941, Waterloo, Iowa


Lloyd G. Moser
Dies in California
Truck Fleet Operator Former
Waterloo Resident.
Lloyd G. Moser, 49, former resident of Black Hawk county, died Tuesday at his home in Los Angeles,
Cal., ol a heart attack.
He was operator of a fleet of fast freight trucks running between Los Angeles and San Francisco.
His mother, Mrs. Jacob Moser, 800 Campbell avenue, accompanied by his sister. Mrs. J. D. Plum, Polo, Ill.,

and his brothers, A. J. Moser, 915 Franklin street, Cedar Falls, and Glenn W., of Perry, Ia., left Wednesday morning for Los Angeles to attend funeral services.
Born in Orange Township.
He was born on Feb. 10. 1892 on a farm in Orange township Black Hawk county. Iowa, the son of Mr.
and Mrs. Jacob Moser. In 1908 he moved with his parents to Montrose, Colo. He had been a resident of
Los Angeles for 19 years.
-continues with family information.




Thanks for you diligence in finding this. He died before the Autocar ad came out, I wonder if one of his family ran the business after his death?
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Built in Buffalo --

PAPUA, NEW GUINEA, 1942-07-27 Bell P-39 Aircobra



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7144/6798861811_5e60b17efc_o.jpg



By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
They called him "Reverse Flight" Corrigan -- Know why?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6798861775_511e688f16_o.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
You can trust your car --- and plane ---

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2643/5722215214_80390ea804_o.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
An interesting period in aviation development --- Jimmy Dolittle Rembers

By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
The "Hustler" -- B-58 --

By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
PZ 1 (03/04/2013)
eymurphey (01/04/2013)
Another of Bill's Autocar / plane pics -- anybody know of this WWII era trucking co.??

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8157/7288795746_340dc7b2dd_b.jpg


Probably a fictitious company - it is a drawing.


So here's the story. I knew the artist, Bill Cambell, and all his works used real trucking companies. Sadly most are now defunct. I have managed to find info. on most, but this is not one of them.
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
1946 Federal Truck and Pan Am Connie --

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5250/5357631118_963f845ab4_o.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
WWII fighter planes -- for me it's a toss up. But 1st place goes to the Brits --

Supermarine Spitfire -- Beauty with purpose!!

SUPERMARINE SPITFIRE Mk IA

Supermarine Spitfire Mk I N3183 / KL-B KIWI of Plt Off Alan Deere, 54 Squadron, Plt Off Alan Deere, Hornchurch, 1940.

Deere used this aircraft to shoot down a Bf 1 09E (24 May) and a Bf 110 (25 May) during actions in suppont of the Dunkirk evacuation, where he was credited with seven victories (plus 1 shared, 1 unconfirmed and 1 damaged) in just five days. The aircraft was shot down by elements of 11./JG 51 in a bitter action over the Channel on 9 July 1940, its pilot, Plt Off A Evershed, being killed - No 54 Sqn lost two other Spitfires in this action, with a second pilot being killed and Al Deere being slightly burnt when he had to force land P9398 near Manston.




http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5044/5247200162_df052c5a2c_b.jpg

Next would be the P-51 Mustang ---

P-51D MUSTANG "OLD CROW"
CLARENCE "BUD" ANDERSON

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5082/5257430249_0251bdddbf_b.jpg

And of course -- the plane that Pappy flew -- Corsair F4U

CORSAIR F4U

U.S. NAVY F4U-1A "CORSAIR" OF FIGHTER SQUADRON VF-17

FLOWN BY COMMANDER JOHN T. BLACKBURN

Fighter squadron VF-17 was lead by Lt. Commander(later Commander) John T. Blackburn and adopted the pirate "Jolly Roger" as their squadron symbol. VF-17 was to become known as the "Skull and Crossbones Squadron" and as "Blackburn's Irregulars". VF-17 served two tours of duty commencing combat operation on 27 October 1943 from their base on Ondonga,New Georgia Island. This tour of duty lasted until 01 December 1943. Their second tour of duty was from 25 January 1944 until 04 March 1944 from their base at Piva Yoke, Bougainville Island. During their 79 days in combat, VF-17 was credited with 154 1/2 victories and created 13 aces.




http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5041/5246598463_435e6ba714_o.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Tutlebrain (03/04/2013)
eymurphey (02/04/2013)
The "Hustler" -- B-58 --



George, we still had them in service in 1990:D


http://2010.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2010/12/25/51195952.jpgrecently they were replaced by those:


http://2010.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2010/12/25/18314936.jpg



Old US equipment is never wasted over there, lol



Is the XB-70 still flying? Thought there were "teething" problems with the Valkyrie.
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Jeff Lakaszcyck (31/03/2013)
One of my favorites, Reo 29XS & F1A tank trailer with Lockheed Constitution

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/5daf6a75-acb8-47ce-9822-9738.jpg



Jeff --You got a new plane for me!!! I love Lockheed planes and I have never seen one of these!! Here's another with complete with trucks --


http://naval.aviation.museum/emuwebdoncoms/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=16000101&size=178x116&image=yes
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Down in Argentina --- a nice old Dodge --

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/9cf73f22b17c6f37_large
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Another of Bill's Autocar / plane pics -- anybody know of this WWII era trucking co.??

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8157/7288795746_340dc7b2dd_b.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Wolfcreek_Steve (01/04/2013)
eymurphey (01/04/2013)
Down in Argentina --- a nice old Dodge --



Anyone know what the plane is? P-26?


Don't know yet, but not a P-26! More of the same type --

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab85/Leutnant1/aviacion%20de%20ejercito/ea48.jpg


http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab85/Leutnant1/aviacion%20de%20ejercito/ea50.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
wayne graham (02/04/2013)
George, We like trucks but we all have other interests too. That is what makes this board so special cause we can do old trucks and have a life too. Any time I can learn about something I consider it a plus. Not that learning is my strong suit.lol Wayne


Wayne -- Please understand that by no means was I complaining, one of my other passions is aircraft. At last count I have nearly a hundred models in 1/48 and 1/32 scale of WWII fighters and bombers. I also have a collection of racing planes of the 30's -- Gee Bee R1 & R2, Wedell -Williams, Travel Air, Gee Bee Z and Seversky P-35. I have just started making card stock airplanes. Check my collection out on FLIKR --

Where possible, I have given an explanation of the aircraft represented in the photo. Just click on any photo in a set.

1/48 scale Aircraft

Aircraft of WWII 1/48 & 1/32 scale

Airshows and Museums --- most of these pictures were taken by me, some are from the Air Force Museum @ Wright Patterson

Gee Bee Aircraft --- includes my models and rare photos

Paper Model Aircraft

Wedell - Williams Air Racer

1/32 scale aircraft
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Michelle Cole (01/04/2013)
John, you and Wolf Creek Steve have it correct. Its the cockpit of the gracefull Connie. In my opinion the most beautiful propliner ever built.



The C-121 Super G, the longest range of all the Connies

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/7699fe15-70f5-4f84-975f-eedb.jpg




This picture was taken at an airshow in Geneseo, NY -- the Connie is about to land on a grass strip!!

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5006/5285873047_56380683b4_z.jpg


Taken on a fly by --- one of my favorite pictures, probably the subject matter --

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5244/5285903827_84e7c815cf_z.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago







http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/7113fd8c-bddb-481d-b8ed-67bc.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/baef690d-c1b2-4aa0-bda3-b5b6.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/2d7ee7c4-23f4-4efc-9f72-f08e.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Frank Surber (31/03/2013)
OK Michelle; there were not all that many air frames that utilized that windscreen configuration. THis looks to be narrowing down to the Global warrior itself
The venerable master of the sky the B52 also has a windscreen configuration such as the photo you posted
I've never had the oppertunity to see inside of one but I'm going to take one last stab
The B52


Frank -- in support of your theory --



http://www.vojsko.net/photo/letecka/bombardery/b-52_cockpit.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
One of the most beautiful aircraft, the Constellation being refueled by a Foden --

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7110/7586381206_97f2b20bb8_b.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
The planes are Jenny's -- where's Jeff or Bill when I need em???--

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wOuePP5cf9k/Tozrupbr3jI/AAAAAAAAAWs/OdDGTrYc1Zc/s1600/Jenny%2527s+being+refueled+in+Minn..jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
John Hanson (31/03/2013)
eymurphey (30/03/2013)
So, let's hijack this thread (sort of):rolleyes: and get back to old trucks (sort of):). Anybody tell me what the KW truck has in common with the B-29's?

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/kenworthgasturbine_02_1000.jpg




Well....almost correct.... those aren't B-29's. They're B-50's which was basically a B-29 with an R-4360 Pratt and Whitney on them. The B-29 was just a touch underpowered with the Wright R-3350, plus it was a bit of a "finicky" engine, not to mention a very complex engine, with the Power Recovery Turbines, etc. They didn't like to be hammered on until they were nice and warm and didn't like abrupt power changes, so they got a reputation (not quite deserved) as undependable. The 4360 was 4 rows of 7 cylinders and pretty much over built enough so that it would take anything you could dish out to it, within reason.



Thanks for the correction -- I didn't notice the oversize engines or the more modern gun mount ---
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
This one's for our Ford lover --


Edits are GREAT!! -- Make that DODGE!!!

http://www.wichitaphotos.org/graphics/wpl_wpl1491.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Jeff Lakaszcyck (31/03/2013)
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/dc0ff65a-573f-4cb0-93ee-d3b0.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/c2b03325-8ae6-4cf0-be7c-30ae.jpg



Plane is --- Vought-Sikorsky OS2U-3 Kingfisher
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Jeff Lakaszcyck (31/03/2013)
eymurphey (31/03/2013)
This one's for our Ford lover --

http://www.wichitaphotos.org/graphics/wpl_wpl1491.jpg


George, I think you meant to post this for our Dodge lover !



Whoops -- Me bad!!!
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Autocars and planes from my friend Bill Campbell --


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8448/7981128235_53bb5b4fe7_b.jpg


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7354265410_6e07aa617c_b.jpg


I'll give you the rare color version of the next one ---

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8377021480_5303e1678d_b.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Don't know if this will help on the Autocar issue --- U70 vs U90

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6985656788_66e52ce02a_z.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/f7dfd9a4-9b42-46e7-88bf-c1dd.JPG

This is what you see in Jeff's LIFE picture --- Autocar U-5044-T Tractor, 5-ton, 4x4 (G-635)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8224661069_53c6a2fef4_o.jpg
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
http://imgsrv3.aramcoexpats.com/galleries/139/163_1561.jpg

Aramco's Kenworth tops the first sand dune on the way to Dhahran with its unique load of airplane. KLM technicians and Aramco riggers keep a weather eye out for any signs of trouble. This low angle shot shows the slight damage apart from bent props and flaps suffered by the plane when it was set down in the desert at 2 a.m. on January 2, 1953.
By Tutlebrain - 9 Years Ago
A couple of 3 B17s the IAF managed to purchase (illegally) in the US in 1948.

http://www.oocities.org/capecanaveral/hangar/2848/b17.gif
http://www.oocities.org/capecanaveral/hangar/2848/images/b17_2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t1alZHvmPDQ/TZk2XH3_scI/AAAAAAAAAyA/-EC1L1ffDYs/s1600/IDF_B17fly.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pczQbUspMzs/TZk2X-TGWkI/AAAAAAAAAyI/uDbgf-UgaM4/s1600/IDF_B17s_1602.jpg

Those were the last B-17s to see combat service ever starting with their first raid which involved a trip from Czechoslovakia to Egypt (longer than any European bombing raids durin WWII) - un-escorted and using whatever ordinance the IDF could get its hands on at that time, which were German 550 lb bombs (yes).

More here: http://aviationtrivia.blogspot.co.at/2011/04/last-operational-b-17-flying-fortresses.html


By the way, the last M4 v Pz IV battle took place in the region also - as late as 1967 but we need an armor thread for that...
By Tutlebrain - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (02/04/2013)
The "Hustler" -- B-58 --



George, we still had them in service in 1990:D


http://2010.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2010/12/25/51195952.jpgrecently they were replaced by those:


http://2010.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2010/12/25/18314936.jpg



Old US equipment is never wasted over there, lol
By Tutlebrain - 9 Years Ago
George, these drawings I posted are very good make believes or "what ifs", although I'm sure the IAF would have loved to put its hands on the B58s when they were pensioned off - if they were available and for the right price... With the typical IDF "modify every bit of equipment to suit us" approach they would have made it into a low level bomber or something similarly absurd...
By Tutlebrain - 9 Years Ago
Surely a classic now, the basic design has been around since 1964: the CH 53. The below (from http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?58508-Israel-Defense-Forces-(Read-First-Post!)&p=6590680&viewfull=1#post6590680) are of IAF "Yasurs" (the Israeli variety, which is different from US CH 53s in many details). The IAF has started on the "Yasur 2025" program aimed at updating its helicopters so that they'll stay in service until 2025 (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3250/2667029466_5ce5edaeb5_b.jpg).

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7233/yasuredlin07.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7669/yasuredlin08.jpg

Refueling from another old classic:)
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1056/yasuredlin12.jpg
Perks of serving with the unit?
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2459/yasuredlin15.jpg

and another one from http://www.flickr.com/photos/xnir/with/1823433712/#photo_1823433712
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2172/1823433712_b9bedcaa15_o.jpg
By Lynn D - 9 Years Ago
I don't believe a word of it til I've tasted it myself, directions to your house please.
By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
Jeff Lakaszcyck (31/03/2013)
Saturn V second stage being transported in 1963.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/ae705306-4cca-4008-b328-9732.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/9bfab01f-2af1-4128-b54f-f5b2.jpg


Don't mean to be picky, Jeff, but I think the Ford is a 1956 model, with the wrap around screen. Some great trucks/aircraft photos you've posted on here.
By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
Start naming them ---

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg
P38 Lightning being refuelled by a Chevy or GMC cabover Shell tanker with trailing axle or tandem drive conversion. I'll leave the other aircraft to the experts,
By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
My favoritism is showing --

A Spitfire of No. 19 Squadron is refuelled at Fowlmere, near Duxford, September 1940.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/A_Spitfire_of_No._19_Squadron_is_refuelled_at_Fowlmere%2C_near_Duxford%2C_September_1940._CH1372.jpg





Anybody know what this truck is? Interesting that it's got Gruss type shock absorbers fitted.
By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
Michelle Cole (07/04/2013)
Hamish (07/04/2013)
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
Start naming them ---

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6792522069_babd0a85a8_b.jpg
P38 Lightning being refuelled by a Chevy or GMC cabover Shell tanker with trailing axle or tandem drive conversion. I'll leave the other aircraft to the experts,


I see a bunch of c-47 across the flightline


Look carefully, the plane behind the P-38's left stabilizer is not a C-47. The plane on the far right was made by Lockheed -- it carries a defunct car makers name. Funny nobodies identified the truck --


Lockheed Hudson and I identified the truck as a Chevrolet or GMC cabover 1941-46 type.
By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
Could be a Dodge, but I reckon it's one of these or a GMC version.

By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (04/05/2013)
The truck is the easy part -- what is the plane???

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7170603932_d9ecf8eb73_z.jpg


Could it be a British Gloster Meteor.
By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (12/05/2013)
Still wondering if you've figured out what is missing from the Gee Bee --

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/a18d19c8-a39b-4747-95af-73d4.JPG

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/110429c9-d56f-4d52-ba75-8cdb.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/d4f6feac-833a-4327-9b78-5034.jpg


Some louvres on the top of the fuselage, behind the engine cowling on the real aircraft that are absent on the model.
By OLPs59KW - 9 Years Ago
Would it be the door for the pilot access
By OLPs59KW - 9 Years Ago
Kevin , nice filming. Amazing flying accuracy!!!
By chocko - 9 Years Ago
Wayne Graham just read your post about tracers. I was on a motor gunboat in Nam it was pretty heavily armed for the size of it. The twin 20's had every 5th round a tracer. This could be standard practice but if you wanted you could increase the number between rounds.This was on a VN boat but they pretty much copied what was U.S. Joe D.
By chocko - 9 Years Ago
Hamish and Jeff with the square door I go with 56 also. 55's had the sloped wing window. Joe D.
By glenn akers - 9 Years Ago
Here is one of my past toys.
By glenn akers - 9 Years Ago
And my last plane.
By glenn akers - 9 Years Ago
John this is a 150 Lycoming but at the time we built this I had a 180 Lycoming but could not get a STC for it.It has a Texas tail wheel conversion. I wished after the fact that I would have started with a aerbat 150.This 150 engine has burnt mostly auto fuel.It still had a good climb rate.I wish I still had it. Also the man that bought the 180 from me told me that it had float frame attachment brakets from the fractory which I did not know but it did have a sea going prop and cross braces in the w/s. I loved that cross braces cause you could hold on to them in rough air.
By glenn akers - 9 Years Ago


By glenn akers - 9 Years Ago
Pitot tube ?
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
Good idea Michelle.
From look of things we have several other members on this board with like interest, and experiences.
Lets see where it goes.
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
Truck in the picture. Found one. Don't cook very well though.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/d35eb6dd-3e69-4786-ad55-33cc.jpg
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
SR 71, or A 12 not sure?

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/b29b2df4-3f42-4f28-8795-a493.bmp
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
Bought a picture frames today at a yard sale.
This picture of a P 38 was in one.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/726cf2c5-5e09-4335-8f09-c148.jpg
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
D model

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/88fc49ae-a7f7-4d76-8946-b4a4.jpg
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
Widgeon

This one is in Pima Air & Space Museum.
I volunteer out there during winter when I'm in Tucson.
Stop in some time.
Don't know if you'll be able to pick it out, but there is different style hull in the background that can be used on it.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/7b130894-eb8c-46b2-b0e1-a03a.jpg
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
This was not at an air show.
I just happened to find just the right location to watch the annual qualifications.




http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/687bcebf-e422-4ae2-b696-8f13.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/cae3af9d-264e-4fb1-82c3-079e.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/80cdc5d7-1d2a-48fb-a9e5-0067.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/85858b96-02c7-4170-8760-5929.jpg
By Shifty - 9 Years Ago
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/a526527c-79be-433f-9f17-4f12.jpg
By Shifty - 5 Years Ago
About a month ago I had the chance to go to the range.
 A-10s were practicing that day.

Smoke is from the gun being fired.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/uploads/images/070cc3d3-6a89-451b-8c0e-d2d7.jpg

Target area

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/uploads/images/e2618262-f0ad-4dc0-ae36-99dc.jpg

Final flyover

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/uploads/images/c537cab0-e203-4e43-b944-aee4.jpg





By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
rubbishman (29/03/2013)
Any Marines out there should know this one, the "Dog". I have a couple hours stick time. Only a couple still airworthy that I know of, although a few of the S-58 Twin-Pac turbine conversions are still in use.http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/02b956bc-3771-4e9c-8f9f-7674.jpg


I've never flown one...but built a few of the R1820-84 and -56 engines for them...as well as a few R-1300-3 for the S-55-A as well as the R1340 for the "straight" S-55's. What a PIA they are to work on!! The baffeling systems on the R1300's was good for 2 guys for at least 3 days, if they had done one before!
By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (30/03/2013)
So, let's hijack this thread (sort of):rolleyes: and get back to old trucks (sort of):). Anybody tell me what the KW truck has in common with the B-29's?

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/kenworthgasturbine_02_1000.jpg




Well....almost correct.... those aren't B-29's. They're B-50's which was basically a B-29 with an R-4360 Pratt and Whitney on them. The B-29 was just a touch underpowered with the Wright R-3350, plus it was a bit of a "finicky" engine, not to mention a very complex engine, with the Power Recovery Turbines, etc. They didn't like to be hammered on until they were nice and warm and didn't like abrupt power changes, so they got a reputation (not quite deserved) as undependable. The 4360 was 4 rows of 7 cylinders and pretty much over built enough so that it would take anything you could dish out to it, within reason.

By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Michelle, I'm with Wolfcreek Steve.... Connie.

Here's a little better pic I snapped one day...



And a pic of the busy seat..... I was working on my FE rating for the Connie... deal fell through before I got it done, so didn't need it anymore. :(

By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Geoff Weeks (01/04/2013)
Never bet against John when it comes to aircraft, esp piston engine aircraft.


I dunno about that Geoff...... but even the blind squirrel finds a nut now and then! ;)

Here's one of my favorites... I built the engine,did the maintenance and traveled with it on the West Coast for a few years.. one of two left at that time...... any guesses?



By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Here's a little more recent P2-V shot.... (one of our locals...)

By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
I know the primary designer of the Valkyrie.... He lives not that far from us.
By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
It's that time of year again.... so far, nothing close to us, but Neptune's been getting some workouts.........

By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Yah, they've had some "issues" and such, but they're still plodding along. Neptune has configured a BAe-146, and has it on contract, but it'll never take the place of the P2V's in my heart.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://wildfiretoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/N146FF.jpg&imgrefurl=http://wildfiretoday.com/2011/09/26/neptune-aviations-dan-snyder-on-tanker-40/&h=294&w=859&sz=40&tbnid=OIixtD_gOxWMyM:&tbnh=41&tbnw=120&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dneptune%2Baviation%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=neptune+aviation&usg=__x-e5mGvuH4a96fnY6DhCDRr1Ag0=&docid=04ZBM-mCawERNM&sa=X&ei=dH_6UYLvKpCUjAKqjIEI&ved=0CDgQ9QEwAw#imgdii=OIixtD_gOxWMyM%3A%3BPrR16ZvVzF0d1M%3BOIixtD_gOxWMyM%3A
By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Yep, 359 is right....I got to hug the one in the AF museum a few years ago when I was there teaching a painting class to the restoration department. The XB-70 is the only jet that I ever took a second look at. Just something about the way it looks.....

As far as a WWII fighter...I'll take the Jug (P-47). Easy to work on and awesome machine! Next in line is going to be the Goodyear F2G Corsair...not the F4U. The F2G has a R4360 Pratt on the front instead of the R2800. Nothing beats raw, cubic inches! It's not as nice to work on as a Jug, but not as bad as a Mustang.. and that would be my 3rd choice. It's a fantastic plane, but a real pain to work on, and the Merlin likes to be worked on.
By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Glen, you've got good taste! I take care of a 160 hp 150...FUN plane! Nothing wrong with the 180 either! I've been known to fall out of a few of those....
By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Well, here's the Stinson I'm currently working on. It's a 108-3 and will have an IO-390 Lycoming, MT composite prop, my aux fuel STC, and about 50 other mods. Somehow, I've wound up doing quite a few of these....good planes! I hand formed a new firewall, boot cowl, and door frames, not to mention straightening and "massaging" almost every metal part in this plane.



This was the last Stinson I did...





By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Here's another of the sweeties I worked on. Grumman Goose N327. This was in '95 at Bayview Airport, WA.



You might be more apt to recognize it in this paint scheme, which it wore during it's career in a TV series called "Tails of the Gold Monkey". It was also featured in a movie called Comando.


Unfortunately, after Jim Chrysler sold it, it went back to New York state and met a firey mishap...both occupants got out just fine.


Last word I got, it had been bought and was being rebuilt. It should be close to flying again by now.
By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Robert, I think you're right....seems that Fred said they'd painted it a solid color for the movie. I haven't ever been able to sit through the movie, so haven't put eyes on it in there. I know the guy that did the mechanic work on both that and the TV show, so he was telling me about the history.
By John Hanson - 9 Years Ago
Skip (11/05/2013)
Weren't there also aircraft by Grumman called Teal and Widgeon?


Skip, the only "Teal" I have heard of is a homebuilt. Like Kevin mentioned, the Grummans were named from the smallest to the largest, "Widgeon, Goose, Mallard, and Albatross". All very fine aircraft! I've worked on all but the Mallard.
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Jeff Lakaszcyck (31/03/2013)
My favorite aircraft photos are the ones with trucks in them ! Most of these photos are from the Life Magazine collection.

Douglas B-18 Bolo

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/0b4cc026-434e-4b2e-b658-a304.jpg

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/bbf38d5b-6ff5-4381-93cb-18ba.jpg


B-17
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Jeff Lakaszcyck (31/03/2013)
One of my favorites, Reo 29XS & F1A tank trailer with Lockheed Constitution

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/5daf6a75-acb8-47ce-9822-9738.jpg


The Lockheed R6V Constitution was a large, propeller-driven, double-decker transport aircraft developed in the 1940s by Lockheed as a long-range, high capacity transport and airliner for the U.S. Navy and Pan American Airways. (The Constitutions were identified as R6O until 1950.) Only two of the planes were ever built, both prototypes. Although these two planes went into service with the Navy, the Constitution design ultimately proved underpowered and too large for practical airline use at the time. The Constitution remains the largest fixed-wing aircraft type ever operated by the U.S. Navy.
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
I like this view!

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Gulf Oil Refueling an Eastern Airlines DC 2

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Eastern Air Lines Douglas DC-2 NC14970

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
The Great Silver Fleet DC-2

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Meteor
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/cf057d67-cc45-49a5-93c7-2fd6.jpg

eymurphey (05/05/2013)
Hamish (05/05/2013)
eymurphey (04/05/2013)
The truck is the easy part -- what is the plane???

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7170603932_d9ecf8eb73_z.jpg


Could it be a British Gloster Meteor.


That it is!!
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (05/05/2013)
Bill White (05/05/2013)
Meteor
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/cf057d67-cc45-49a5-93c7-2fd6.jpg

eymurphey (05/05/2013)
Hamish (05/05/2013)
eymurphey (04/05/2013)
The truck is the easy part -- what is the plane???

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7170603932_d9ecf8eb73_z.jpg


Could it be a British Gloster Meteor.


That it is!!



BILL -- CAN'T P.M. YOU OR E-MAIL YOU, says you've exceeded your limit and your box is full --


Thanks George, Empty now
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Shorts Stirling Bomber Being Hauled by an International K 7 WW2
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/8c537543-6270-47ad-bfa9-f7d0.jpg
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
glenn akers (13/05/2013)
Pitot tube ?


Aircraft use pitot tubes to measure airspeed
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Henry Ford was determined that he could mass produce bombers just as he had done with cars.
He built the Willow Run assembly plant and proved it. It was the world's largest building under one roof.
Even then FORD HAD A BETTER IDEA!












By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
GMC CCKW, Jeep, and P-51 == Doe it get better than this??

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6792522503_8d86269e2b_z.jpg


Here is another shot of this George.

P-51D Mustang 'Fools Paradise IV' fighter of 363rd Fighter Group, US 380th Fighter Squadron at Azeville Airfield, Normandy, France, Aug-Sep 1944

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Now this is the only thing better than a P-51

North American F-82 Twin Mustang







F-82 Twin Mustang Night Fighter
By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
IH K and DC-4

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
1935 IH van and Boeing 247

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Boeing 247

By Bill White - 9 Years Ago
Kevin is right on, This is an in line Merlin.

This DC 4 was an early one with the 4 bladed prop,

Here is more on them.

DC-4M2 North Star. Trans-Canada Air Lines (now Air Canada) had twenty Douglas DC-4M2 North Stars, delivered 1947-48. Early aircraft had 4-bladed propellers, later ones had 3-bladers of larger diameter.

A fleet of Merlin-powered Canadair North Stars was delivered from 1947 and these commenced services to several European countries, including the United Kingdom and to cities in the USA. The last of the North Stars was sold in 1961

A development contract to produce a new variant of the Douglas DC-4 transport, was still in effect. The new Canadair DC-4M powered by Rolls-Royce Merlin engines emerged in 1946 as the "North Star." More than just an engine swap, the North Star had the Douglas DC-6 nose, landing gear and fuselage shortened by 80 in (2 metres), DC-4 empennage, rear fuselage, flaps and wing tips, C-54 middle fuselage sections, wing centre and outer wing panel, cabin pressurisation, a standardized cockpit layout and a different electrical system.

Canadair built 71 examples under the designations: North Star, DC-4M, C-4 and C-5. With the exception of the single C-5 (which had Pratt & Whitney R-2800 engines, as fitted to the Douglas DC-6), these variants were all powered by Rolls-Royce Merlin engines and 51 of the production examples were pressurized.
By Aaron - 9 Years Ago
Some one made a stab at it but I believe its a Dodge.
By delgue - 9 Years Ago
I have to agree...I think the Constellation was by far the most graceful passenger craft of all time. Howard had quite a vision when he accepted this fleet.
BY THE WAY....I also like havin a bit of variEty on our Lil' site here ....THANKS FOR THE NEW THREAD!!!!
By delgue - 9 Years Ago
In reply to your post, Michelle....about no pilots under 40 in a Connie....I didnt know that....why ?
By delgue - 9 Years Ago
Ok...heres my 2 pennys'....One of the most beautiful airframes built...and her greatest Pilot
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/00ca76ac-8674-4a92-a05c-e678.jpg
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/afcd46ee-8b1c-4665-9d75-e3ab.jpg
By delgue - 9 Years Ago
But this is my personal favorite.......nothing compares to the grace and stunning curves they put into this Jewel.....http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/bfaf89cf-acc0-42a3-ac60-cc35.jpg
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/3f5b1584-dff2-4b67-a3ab-f0c8.jpg
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/9bd72c4f-62a5-4f83-b012-b332.jpg
By delgue - 9 Years Ago
But this man...was impressive. I seen him in action alot as a kid.
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/179c9292-415a-420c-a6f2-2d5b.jpg
http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/b001dd1c-4e09-44be-85b6-42c2.jpghttp://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/5ff8731e-3175-4719-ae3a-b347.jpg
PS.....I dont have a clue who "Ken Kalynuk " is....thanks for the great photo tho!
By TEWHITEIV - 9 Years Ago
Kevin, I guess the wind is always blowing at the higher altitudes, but do you prefer perfectly calm air or a little breeze to nose her into when setting loads?
By wayne graham - 9 Years Ago
jhancock (29/03/2013)
Maybe we should have a cooking and fine food thread...... Oooops, nevermind!
Works for me. I bake one of the best peach cobblers you ever tasted. Wayne
By wayne graham - 9 Years Ago
George, We like trucks but we all have other interests too. That is what makes this board so special cause we can do old trucks and have a life too. Any time I can learn about something I consider it a plus. Not that learning is my strong suit.lol Wayne
By wayne graham - 9 Years Ago
Shifty, Like I said before I saw a D model do a touch and go at an air show and it was the 2nd most awesome thing I ever saw in aviation. What a sight to see. Wayne
By Frank Surber - 9 Years Ago
Judging by the fact that it has windscreen wipers and the 2 forward facing windscreens being separated by a center screen I'm going to say a C130 Never been in the cockpit of 1 but been in the back of them many times and looking in from the ground to the front it looks like one to me
By Frank Surber - 9 Years Ago
OK Michelle; there were not all that many air frames that utilized that windscreen configuration. THis looks to be narrowing down to the Global warrior itself
The venerable master of the sky the B52 also has a windscreen configuration such as the photo you posted
I've never had the oppertunity to see inside of one but I'm going to take one last stab
The B52
By Frank Surber - 9 Years Ago
John Hanson (04/04/2013)
It's a fantastic plane, but a real pain to work on, and the Merlin likes to be worked on.
John I had heard that it wasn't so much that the Merlin likes to be worked on as much as the Merlin loves the attention it gets just to keep it from feeling lonely
By Gordon_M - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (02/04/2013)
Well I had to "back track" several pictures of this plane to the "source". The plane in question is a Curtiss Hawk 75 --- Never thought I'd be searching planes on a truck forum!!!

http://www.jitterbuzz.com/manreal/curtiss_hawk75_01.jpg

http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/78/pics/91_2.jpg


I vaguely remember from somewhere that Argentina got a batch of 1940 T202 Series Dodge VC1 Command Cars too, but really can't remember where I heard or saw that.
By Gordon_M - 9 Years Ago
Hamish (07/04/2013)
eymurphey (07/04/2013)
My favoritism is showing --

A Spitfire of No. 19 Squadron is refuelled at Fowlmere, near Duxford, September 1940.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/A_Spitfire_of_No._19_Squadron_is_refuelled_at_Fowlmere%2C_near_Duxford%2C_September_1940._CH1372.jpg





Anybody know what this truck is? Interesting that it's got Gruss type shock absorbers fitted.

It's an Albion AM463 RAF Refueller, ( the AM stands for Air Ministry ) 1935-40 built on Clydebank, about forty miles from my house.:Whistling: I think after 1940 the factory was building bigger 4 x 4 and 6 x 6 trucks as this type was really too small for shifting fuel in the quantity required for bigger planes and bigger operations.They have parked it right next to the Spit as that saves unhitching the boom to do the fuel transfer - compare the distinctive sunburst sign on the top of the radiator to the restored one below.
The civilian type registration will date from the mid to late 1930's, before RAF vehicles got their own registration marks.
Albion had just taken over the factory previously used to make HALLEY vehicles, and by coincidence Dan the Steam is restoring a HALLEY at the minute;

Dan and Jen building a HALLEY from the ground up



Same type from the back, showing one of the three Zwicky booms in operation in the by-the-book transfer mode rather than the convenient one. Recipient is a Hurricane this time.http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/585a151f-c991-43fb-8a66-185e.jpg