What Am I for Monday 04/08/13


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By Jeff Lakaszcyck - 9 Years Ago
Here is an interesting mixer. Emblem removed. Photo from Sven Bengston.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/678ba32a-4933-4e9c-b67a-26df.jpg
By Brocky - 9 Years Ago
Totally a WAG Canadian SCOT??? Definately a Budd/Ford C model cab but a lot of people used them.
By Wolfcreek_Steve - 9 Years Ago
Looks like something Hendrickson might do!
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
While both Ford and Mack utilized this style cab -- this is an FWD
By ppsyclone - 9 Years Ago
FWD for sure. Wheels in rear are giveaway
By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
Got to be FWD
By aussiewhite - 9 Years Ago
FWD front axle different looks like hub to as we in Aus call spider adapter
By dclerici - 9 Years Ago
I'll say Fabco.
By ppsyclone - 9 Years Ago
If it's an FWD, then it probably has FWD axles. I would surmise it is an 8x6 whick was a popular configuration for a 4 axle straight truck. The front wheel can unbolt like a Budd wheel or the rim can demount like a Dayton wheel.
By Jeff Lakaszcyck - 9 Years Ago
Thanks Brian, I think you have given me the night off, that's about all I know about this one ! Of course this is an 8x6 FWD using that famous Budd designed cab. This cab has seen duty on many different makes of trucks, including Ford and Mack along with several smaller companies. George Murphey had this 1st. Thanks to Sven Bengston for the mixer pic and Brian Kelly for the ad.

http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/Uploads/Images/0817c812-4c52-4abe-8bd4-4e64.jpg

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By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Jeff,

This pic was used in a WAI you posted on FWD using Budd cabs --- WHAT AM I SUNDAY 8/01/10

also this -- Ford designed the C cab, but apparently gave the design to BUDD cabs who then built the cabs for FORD, Mack, FWD and Walther. Most of the FWD and Wither cabs were used in Fire Trucks, I originally thought your picture was a Mack,Knew Ford was too easy. Further research came up with FWD.




I just paraphrased the above from this found on another site---

"The C-Series also had a whole family of badge-engineered doppelgangers. In Canada it was re-tagged Mercury along with the M-Series pickup. The tooling was designed and owned by Ford but manufacturing was outsourced to Budd; other truck OEMs used both the entire cab and portions thereof with approval. Mack used the Cab for their N Model, FWD and Walther used portions of the cab for their airport fire apparatus"



http://forums.aths.org/InstantForum2010/Uploads/Images/689b5c33-6fcf-4158-bc49-b20d.jpg



http://forums.aths.org/InstantForum2010/Uploads/Images/6e4cdc39-59d7-460d-89cd-d4cc.jpg




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By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
eymurphey (09/04/2013)
Jeff,

This pic was used in a WAI you posted on FWD using Budd cabs --- WHAT AM I SUNDAY 8/01/10

also this -- Ford designed the C cab, but apparently gave the design to BUDD cabs who then built the cabs for FORD, Mack, FWD and Winther. Most of the FWD and Wither cabs were used in Fire Trucks, I originally thought your picture was a Mack,Knew Ford was too easy. Further research came up with FWD.




I just paraphrased the above from this found on another site---

"The C-Series also had a whole family of badge-engineered doppelgangers. In Canada it was re-tagged Mercury along with the M-Series pickup. The tooling was designed and owned by Ford but manufacturing was outsourced to Budd; other truck OEMs used both the entire cab and portions thereof with approval. Mack used the Cab for their N Model, FWD and Walther used portions of the cab for their airport fire apparatus"

George-do they mean Walter rather than Walther?-never heard of Walther trucks-wasn't there a German pistol called a Walther PPK or something like that?
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Hamish -- Think your query warrants further investigation -- I think you're on to something!!
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Hamish -- If we can trust WIKIPEDIA --

Usage by other manufacturers

Some historians have erroneously referred to the Ford tilt-cab as the "Budd" cab, implying it was an off-the-shelf item available to anyone. However, the C-Series cab was designed by Ford, tooled at its own expense and built by the Budd Company to Ford Motor Company specifications. Other truck manufacturers had to obtain Ford approval before purchasing it. The exception was Mack, which bought most of the major cab stampings from Budd and assembled them itself on a floor pan of its own design. In Canada, the Ford "C" had an identical twin - the Mercury "M" Series offered from 1957 to 1972.

At least four truck makers used the Ford C-Series tilt cab. Best known was the look-alike Mack model "N", which was produced between 1958 and 1962. The Four-Wheel-Drive Auto Company used some Ford "C" cabs which bore the FWD emblems, and Yankee-Walter used C-series cab components on some of its large airport crash trucks. In Canada, the Thibault fire truck manufacturer of Pierreville, Quebec, also used C-series parts for their Custom (i.e. non-commercial chassis) trucks.

By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Hamish -- If we can trust WIKIPEDIA --

Usage by other manufacturers

Some historians have erroneously referred to the Ford tilt-cab as the "Budd" cab, implying it was an off-the-shelf item available to anyone. However, the C-Series cab was designed by Ford, tooled at its own expense and built by the Budd Company to Ford Motor Company specifications. Other truck manufacturers had to obtain Ford approval before purchasing it. The exception was Mack, which bought most of the major cab stampings from Budd and assembled them itself on a floor pan of its own design. In Canada, the Ford "C" had an identical twin - the Mercury "M" Series offered from 1957 to 1972.

At least four truck makers used the Ford C-Series tilt cab. Best known was the look-alike Mack model "N", which was produced between 1958 and 1962. The Four-Wheel-Drive Auto Company used some Ford "C" cabs which bore the FWD emblems, and Yankee-Walter used C-series cab components on some of its large airport crash trucks. In Canada, the Thibault fire truck manufacturer of Pierreville, Quebec, also used C-series parts for their Custom (i.e. non-commercial chassis) trucks.

By Hamish - 9 Years Ago
Thanks George.
By Tutlebrain - 9 Years Ago
Has anybody ever seen one of these things (the 8X6) or are they the trucking industry's equivalent to the unicorn?

Also: I like the cost-cutting excercise of using the European style Budd-to-split rim convertor:)
By eymurphey - 9 Years Ago
Here's an FWD Fire/Crash Truck --

http://yngfire.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8334.0;attach=42194;image