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Thanks for the detailed reply of sleeper cabs in Israel.I imagine with the dry climate the F-Model Macks tin lasted longer than here. I am from Pennsylvania and any of the old steel COE'S did not fare well with all the road salt used.Out West in the drier climates and where road salt not used they seemed to not disentagrate. I still like the spoke wheels but my Brockway has the Budd wheels like for spite.Joe D.


Joe, it depends where the truck spent most its life - if it was on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea, then rust would have been a problem, it's hot but humid. In the south well it's like AZ or NM...

Oh, there was another reason why sleeper cabs became popular: between 1967 and 1980 Israel held the Sinai desert which meant that distances became almost respectable, a 500 miles one way was no longer an exception and there were no real motels on the way... The below looks just like such a trip on IDF contract (pic: Eyal Ben Haim)
https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1470364_10202091047331359_1084723555_n.jpg

and just another pic of an Israeli-assembled F700, and not a Budd in sight (source: I. Nachman)
https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/76897_10202747500076907_517284767_n.jpg
I think the red one with the set back axle would be an FM model Tutlebrain. I always enjoy your Israeli photos-thanks for posting them.
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chocko (02/12/2013)
Thanks for the detailed reply of sleeper cabs in Israel.I imagine with the dry climate the F-Model Macks tin lasted longer than here. I am from Pennsylvania and any of the old steel COE'S did not fare well with all the road salt used.Out West in the drier climates and where road salt not used they seemed to not disentagrate. I still like the spoke wheels but my Brockway has the Budd wheels like for spite.Joe D.


Joe, it depends where the truck spent most its life - if it was on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea, then rust would have been a problem, it's hot but humid. In the south well it's like AZ or NM...

Oh, there was another reason why sleeper cabs became popular: between 1967 and 1980 Israel held the Sinai desert which meant that distances became almost respectable, a 500 miles one way was no longer an exception and there were no real motels on the way... The below looks just like such a trip on IDF contract (pic: Eyal Ben Haim)
https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1470364_10202091047331359_1084723555_n.jpg

and just another pic of an Israeli-assembled F700, and not a Budd in sight (source: I. Nachman)
https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/76897_10202747500076907_517284767_n.jpg
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Mack B model on display at Macungie, PA.

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Thanks for the detailed reply of sleeper cabs in Israel.I imagine with the dry climate the F-Model Macks tin lasted longer than here. I am from Pennsylvania and any of the old steel COE'S did not fare well with all the road salt used.Out West in the drier climates and where road salt not used they seemed to not disentagrate. I still like the spoke wheels but my Brockway has the Budd wheels like for spite.Joe D.
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badgoat (29/11/2013)
Here's a video of it driving around http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZy61CxNBBY


Charlie, Thanks for posting the video of Jim and his B61. I've never seen that. Great video.

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@ Badgoat: Thanks for the link.

@ Joe:

There was no travel between Israel and the neighbouring countries until the peace accords with Egypt and then Jordan, but even though the country is small, the reason for no sleeper cabs initially was the extra cost, so that other than some White WC28s which arrived in the early 50s, the trend only started in the 1970s when the first US and European COEs appeared on the scene - these were generally available with the sleeper as a part of the package, so to speak, so people started to demand them and when the first Israeli-assembled Mack Ashdod F700s started rolling out of the factory in 1973 they were all of the sleeper cab variety. The DM could be had with separate sleeper (all IDF ones were fitted with them and some civilian ones) but the one below I posted is an aftermarket job, not sure by whom. There were also a few (US-made) F700 daycabs which had the cab extended by Israeli coachbuilder Dror Sankevich - the DM might have been one he did also...

Here's one (pic: I. Nachman):



Another Israeli special - looks like an F700 but has DM mechanicals. We never had the F900 so this made sense if you wanted a heavy duty COE (Pic: Eyal Ben-Haim)

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I really enjoyed that video of the B 61. It's been a long time since I've driven a B 61 and it sure sounded good.: :)

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looks like he is having too much fun driving that old girl
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Here's a video of it driving around http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZy61CxNBBY


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